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 Post subject: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:28 pm 
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I have a 223 pioneer and love everything about except the trigger. it is so horrible no accuracy is possible. I bought a Tapco trigger but it wont work has anyone found a solutiion or available trigger upgrade for the pioneer
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:27 pm 
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Tapco won't work because the hammer has a "knee" on the front below the strike face? It is quite common to grind that protruding section (large bump near the pin hole) off to fit into Veprs and other variants. Make the profile in that spot match the factory hammer. ;)

Read these and follow them:
http://www.vepr.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2719

http://www.vepr.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=841

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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:13 pm 
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Check this thread if you want to see a pioneer pic or two (bottom of page 1).

That trigger is nothing like the standard AK trigger. The Tapco G2 will not fit it. Perhaps someone more knowledgable than I can chime in with an aftermarket suggestion?

Otherwise, I would strongly suggest reading and digesting the following two threads and adapting the techniques within to your unique factory trigger.

Good stuff here, though some adaptation of the procedures will be necessary. The basic ideas are here:

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=841

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2719

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Please be sure to post back with results and pics or video!

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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:26 pm 
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Doesn't the Pioneer model have a completely removeable trigger group out the bottom? That's how my Hunter's is. And the trigger in my Hunter is nicer than any other AK I've ever felt.

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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:27 pm 
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Has anyone had any more experience to share on this topic? Just got a 223 Pioneer myself and am looking to get the trigger to a usable state. Dinzag didn't think their VEPR trigger group would work.


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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:52 pm 
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HectorEscaton wrote:
Has anyone had any more experience to share on this topic? Just got a 223 Pioneer myself and am looking to get the trigger to a usable state. Dinzag didn't think their VEPR trigger group would work.



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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:29 pm 
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Is the Pioneer trigger like this one from my Hunter?
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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:24 pm 
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AdioSS wrote:
Is the Pioneer trigger like this one from my Hunter?
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It looks quite a bit different. I'll see if I can get some pictures of the trigger group and post them.


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 Post subject: Re: Pioneer Trigger
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:32 pm 
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how hard can it be to do some basic polishing of the mating surfaces ?

you don't need to replace anything
go to a hardware store, pick up some assorted fine sand papers maybe a sharpening stone etc
(do not alter the geometry of any parts- just smoothing and polishing)

you will feel a sense of accomplishment... and have a smooth trigger.

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