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 Post subject: scope mounts
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:00 pm 
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I am looking for advice/opinions on rail type scope mounts for the vepr(not super). What is the sturdiest mount available? Also what mount/optics combos are good for longer range work? Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:18 am 
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By rail mount, are you talking about side rail scope mounts? I think more or less anything Kalinka Optics sells will be good to go for that. They should all lock up solid. Including the POSP and PSO line of scopes, which make range estimation and adjustment fairly simple. They aren't for shooting tiny groups at 800 yards, but neither is your VEPR, really. Should be good enough to hit a gong though. http://kalinkaoptics.com/

The Midwest Industries rail also looks promising. https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=433

For a scope on a 308, I'd stay away from the TWS dogleg for accuracy just based on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=docUTwROk0M Probably plenty good enough for red dots and scopes if you aren't anal, but at the price of 308 ammo, I'd want to wring as much consistency out of the thing as possible. I'd stay away from the Parabellum Armament top cover rail that works on the same principle for the same reason.

Just a thought: if you're mounting a separate and somewhat sizeable scope on an AK and want it fairly low, you're going to want a rail that sits fairly far forward so the objective bell sits in front of the rear sight block. For example, if you wanted to mount this scope on lower rings, you'd need to be able to move the scope forward or backward (and backward would probably put the scope right in your face and screw up your eye relief).

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Otherwise, make sure your rings are high enough so your scope clears your RSB and you still have decent eye relief.

I'd recommend something like this: http://kalinkaoptics.com/mounts/ak-vepr-saiga-romak-1-2-slr/alfa-vepr-ak-saiga-extra-low-profile-side-mount-180-mm-weaver-rail.html or this: https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=433 Though I don't have direct experience with either.

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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:05 pm 
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I hear cheap $30 Leapers side rail scope mounts work just fine... personally I think it's worth a $30 failure than risk paying a whole lot more for nothing


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:18 pm 
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Ha. Yeah, I have the old UTG/Leapers quick detach on my Saiga 308 right now. I used to have the CNC Warrior QD beryl rail, which was solid as hell and also very low, but also heavy as hell. It was expensive and is no longer made, AFAIK.

The UTG works pretty well. I don't know if it really returns to zero, but who cares since you can take the dust cover off with the mount still on there.

The OP asked for "sturdiest" though, and the latches on the higher end mounts are a little more refined and burly.

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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:45 am 
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Currently have the UTG mount on my 54R with a huge Sightmark scope and it works just fine. Dudethebagman's comments are my experience as well for eye relief and clearance. Gotta play with it a bit to get it right. The mount has been very reliable and definitely worth the thirty bucks. Sits a bit high, but no need to remove to field strip. Didn't buy it for this rifle, but works well.

The posp scopes are great and would be my advice for anyone looking to put on a magnifying optic. Very impressed with the mount and the glass clarity. Will eventually go with 1k posp down the road.

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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:49 pm 
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At a little higher price range I hear the K-var mount works well... http://www.k-var.com/shop/KV-04S.html

I just bought a BP-02 mount off of someone. Kalinka sells them here... http://kalinkaoptics.com/mounts/ak-vepr-saiga-romak-1-2-slr/original-bp-02-ak-saiga-vepr-centered-side-mount-to-weaver-rail.html


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:55 am 
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I've got zero experience, so I won't pretend to offer an intelligent opinion. But this site appears to have some decent info on mounts & optics:

http://russianoptics.net/default.html

I still have little idea which optic to get, I'd like to keep it Russian, and the latest (I believe) POSP's in 3-9X42 are priced at about $329 at Kalinka:

http://russianoptics.net/default.html

If anyone can feed me some more experienced info, always appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 3:56 pm 
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I got one of these for my TIGR/Dragunov, haven't shot it yet, but the quality and construction are amazing. Looks ultra cool, very soviet, and optics nice.
I'd think you'd be pretty happy. Its one of the newest PSO designs.

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I got the SVD mount (which they are out of currently) but you want the AK one above


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Try looking at Parabellum Armament. I installed one on my .308 Vepr and it is rock solid. They guarantee to keep sights zeroed. In short, it replaces your existing dust cover and rear sight with a very solid dust cover and built in 1913 picatinny rail with a notched rear sight. The dust cover and rail lift up for cleaning and take down without removal of your scope/dot. It runs the same price as most side mounts but gives you a low mount scope option for red dot or magnified scopes. Check out the youtube videos.


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 Post subject: Re: scope mounts
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:19 pm 
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I took the spacer out of the sidemount that came with my Hunter, but apparently forgot to put a screw back in. And then I moved. I doubt I'll ever find that screw :(

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